{"id":7069,"date":"2019-07-03T06:00:03","date_gmt":"2019-07-03T06:00:03","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/insporising.com\/copy-of-044-how-silence-helped-heal-my-severely-injured-wrist-dr-bita-yadidi\/"},"modified":"2021-03-03T23:18:36","modified_gmt":"2021-03-03T15:18:36","slug":"045-cold-brew-coffee-changed-my-life-rachel-dillon","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/insporising.com\/?p=7069","title":{"rendered":"045: Cold Brew Coffee Changed My Life &#8211; Rachel Dillon"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/embed.radiopublic.com\/e?if=inspiration-rising-WY5X55&amp;ge=s1!997fd8c9301d9e728b9687963ae5d8b991b3cf52\" width=\"100%\" height=\"185\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" sandbox=\"allow-same-origin allow-scripts allow-top-navigation allow-popups\"><\/iframe><\/p>\r\n<p><strong>Rachel Dillon<\/strong> is the founder of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.coldbrewchick.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Cold Brew Chick<\/a>, an online resource and podcast about all things cold brew. Her passion for cold brew began out of desperation. She loved her morning coffee, but hated the acid reflex attacks that would soon attack her chest. A trendy drink started to pop up in my social media feed called &#8220;cold brew&#8221;, and after that first sip, she was hooked! Not only did it taste better than any coffee she had ever had, but she didn&#8217;t feel the desire to reach for the Tums. Cold Brew Chick is a place to learn more about this wonderful drink and be inspired from the people that are fueled by it. What started as a nutrition project at San Diego State has turned into my brand, blog, side hustle, and passion. Not a day goes by without a cold brew by my side!<\/p>\r\n<p><b>In This Episode, You Will Learn:<\/b><\/p>\r\n<ul>\r\n<li>How Rachel got hooked on cold brew coffee.<\/li>\r\n<li>The difference between hot coffee, iced coffee, and cold brew.<\/li>\r\n<li>What you need to look for when shopping for cold brew at the grocery store or your favorite coffee shop.<\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n<p><b>My First Experience With Cold Brew!<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"border: none; overflow: hidden;\" src=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/plugins\/video.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Finsporising%2Fvideos%2F2769885083223897%2F&amp;show_text=0&amp;width=267\" width=\"267\" height=\"476\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\r\n<p><strong>Create beautiful, engaging social media in 5 minutes a day &#8211;<\/strong>\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.riseupcreatives.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">www.RiseUpCreatives.com<\/a><\/p>\r\n<p><strong>Connect with Rachel and other links:<\/strong><\/p>\r\n<ul>\r\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.coldbrewchick.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">ColdBrewChick.com<\/a><\/li>\r\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.coldbrewchick.com\/cold-brew-chick-podcast\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Cold Brew Chick podcast<\/a><\/li>\r\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/coldbrewchick\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Facebook<\/a><\/li>\r\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/coldbrewchick\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Instagram<\/a><\/li>\r\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/coldbrewchick\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Twitter<\/a><\/li>\r\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/dillonrachel\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">LinkedIn<\/a><\/li>\r\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCznRpE-N7IbtHNS5VdHzAOA\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">YouTube<\/a><\/li>\r\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.mostracoffee.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Mostra Coffee<\/a> (San Diego, CA)<\/li>\r\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.moderntimesmerch.com\/collections\/coffee\/coffee\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Modern Times Coffee<\/a><\/li>\r\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.coffeefest.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Coffee Fest<\/a><\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n<p><strong>My Episode on Soul Work with Adi Shakti:<\/strong><\/p>\r\n<ul>\r\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.insporising.com\/soulwork\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The Importance of Asking the Right Questions During Difficult Times<\/a> &#8211; David Trotter (interviewed by Adi Shakti)<\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n<p><strong>Don\u2019t Miss A Single Episode:<\/strong><\/p>\r\n<ul>\r\n<li><strong>Subscribe<\/strong>\u00a0on\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/inspiration-rising\/id1448649388\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\" (opens in a new tab)\">Apple Podcasts<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/play.google.com\/music\/m\/Iqrp5q3bagph2t23malprd3dxvy?t=Launch_Yourself_Today\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Google Podcasts<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/42zIsXzjCibZt49xdCRvB4\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Spotify<\/a>, or <a href=\"https:\/\/www.stitcher.com\/podcast\/in-plain-sight\/launch-yourself-today\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Stitcher<\/a>.<\/li>\r\n<li><strong>Leave a quick review<\/strong>\u00a0on any of the podcast apps to tell people what you think about the show.<\/li>\r\n<li><strong>Take a screenshot of the podcast<\/strong> and post it on Instagram or Instagram Stories. Tag us <a href=\"http:\/\/www.instagram.com\/insporising\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@insporising<\/a>. We\u2019ll repost and give you a shoutout!<\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n<p><!-- \/wp:post-content -->\r\n\r\n<!-- wp:spacer {\"height\":31} --><\/p>\r\n<div class=\"wp-block-spacer\" style=\"height: 31px;\" aria-hidden=\"true\">\u00a0<\/div>\r\n<p><!-- \/wp:spacer -->\r\n\r\n<!-- wp:separator --><\/p>\r\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator\" \/>\r\n<p><!-- \/wp:separator -->\r\n\r\n<!-- wp:spacer {\"height\":35} --><\/p>\r\n<div class=\"wp-block-spacer\" style=\"height: 35px;\" aria-hidden=\"true\">\u00a0<\/div>\r\n<p><!-- \/wp:spacer -->\r\n\r\n<!-- wp:heading {\"level\":1,\"align\":\"center\"} --><\/p>\r\n<h1 style=\"text-align: center;\">Interview Transcript<\/h1>\r\n<p><!-- \/wp:heading -->\r\n\r\n<!-- wp:paragraph --><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>Rachel, thanks so much for taking time to hang with me today.<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">Thanks for having me, David.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>Alright, so let\u2019s start with a tough question. I know this is not one that you\u2019ve answered many times before but what exactly is cold brew and how is that different from iced coffee?<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">That is a tough question. Way to kick it off, David. So, cold brew and iced coffee, the biggest difference between the two is when we think of coffee, we think of espresso, hot brewed coffee and drip coffee. All of those coffees, including iced coffee, are brewed with hot water. So, hot water is what is extracting the caffeine and the flavor from the coffee beans. Where cold brew differs though is that we\u2019re replacing the heat of that water with time. So, instead of using hot water, you either use cold or room temperature water. Then you steep that coffee in that water for anywhere from eight to twenty-four and sometimes forty-eight hours.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">Because of that, the result is you are pulling different compounds from the coffee and then you\u2019re also leaving certain compounds in the coffee as well. So, as an end result, cold brew has less acid in it which is why people like me that have acid reflux, can tolerate it better. Usually you get richer and more chocolatey notes in the cold brew versus iced coffee. It also lasts longer. So, when you have an iced coffee, it\u2019s hot coffee that ice just got thrown into. When that happens, something called oxidation starts to happen and that\u2019s when oxygen affects the flavor and the compounds of that coffee. When you have a cold brew, that doesn\u2019t happen because the heat was never present. So, you can keep cold brew in the fridge from anywhere from two to three weeks. So, it has a longer shelf life as well.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>Wow, I had no idea. That\u2019s a long time. And the flavors don\u2019t change over the course of that two to three weeks as much as hot coffee would?<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">Yeah, it\u2019s crazy, right? The taste can still change a little bit because oxidation will still happen, it\u2019s just not going to be to the extent of hot coffee. So, sometimes maybe in three weeks you might notice more chocolate or maybe you notice more blueberry. It will be very subtle, but it\u2019s not going to be as drastic as if you kept an ice coffee in the fridge for even five days. You will definitely know it\u2019s been in there for a while.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>When did you become passionate about cold brew? How were you introduced to it and why did this capture your palate, so to speak?<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">I was always a hot coffee drinker. I didn\u2019t drink coffee until I had a little change in college when I came back home and that\u2019s when I discovered hot coffee. I started to drink whatever my parents made and I loved it. I just loved the taste of black coffee. I was happy to drink it black. I didn\u2019t feel the need to explore the world of espresso or lattes and I just drank my black coffee. About two to three years later, I noticed I would get heartburn and acid reflux after I had hot coffee. It wouldn\u2019t happen with anything else except hot coffee. I felt really bummed because obviously acid reflux isn\u2019t good and I didn\u2019t want to spend a lifetime having a relationship with a Tums bottle and having to take one anytime I had coffee. And then I loved coffee because I loved the taste and the caffeine. So, I was in this conundrum of, \u201cWhat do I do?\u201d Do I cut out something I love or do I just suffer through it?<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">Lucky for me, around this time the popularity of cold brew was really growing and it was at this point now that Starbucks was starting to serve it. You would find it in your grocery stores and more and more education was coming about it as well. So, when I heard that this was a lower acid product, I thought, \u201cOh, well maybe this is my solution.\u201d I\u2019ll never forget, I went to get my first cold brew at a shop called Wholesome Coffee in North Park, San Diego. I drank it and it was as if fireworks went off. It was incredible. Not only did it taste like the best coffee I\u2019ve ever had, but when I was done, I felt great. I had no acid reflux whatsoever and it also had a little extra caffeine, so I felt a little more perky. I thought, \u201cThis is it. This is my solution.\u201d Ever since then that\u2019s all I drink.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>Does all cold brew have more caffeine then hot brewed coffee?<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">It depends. There\u2019s a little bit of a caffeine conundrum with cold brew because that was one of the marketing points for it very early on. There were claims that it was a smoother drink with less acid and it has more caffeine. That\u2019s true and it\u2019s also not true. It depends on a lot of factors. The problem is, because of all these factors it\u2019s difficult to test the caffeine of cold brew. It\u2019s expensive and you have to ship it off somewhere. So, most people don\u2019t actually really know how much caffeine is in their product.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">Some of the factors would be if it\u2019s a lighter or darker roast. Lighter roast coffees tend to a little bit more higher in caffeine. If it\u2019s an arabica or Robusta bean; arabica coffee beans are pretty much what we consume because they taste better but sometimes, you\u2019ll get Robusta in a blend if it\u2019s meant to be higher caffeine or if you take an instant coffee, that\u2019s where you find the Robusta. How long it was steeped for is also a factor. If it was steeped for longer, sometimes it will pull out a little more caffeine. If they did a hot bloom makes a difference as well. Sometimes shops like to saturate the coffee grounds in hot water for anywhere from a couple seconds to five minutes and then they start the cold brew process. There\u2019s debate on whether that\u2019s truly cold brew or not, but if that happens, because that hot water was there, it will pull out a little bit more caffeine as well. On average though, per ounce cold brew is definitely up there as one of the higher caffeine coffee products. If you\u2019re drinking an 8 to 16 ounce cold brew, it can be anywhere from 200 to 300 milligrams of caffeine.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>Now you just mentioned that some coffee shops do the cold brewing process differently than others. Is there a standard way to do that that a coffee shop would have? Are all coffee shops the same in terms of cold brewing? Break it down for us, help us understand what\u2019s going on behind the scenes there.<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">Actually, when I started Cold Brew Chick, education was my biggest thing. So, when I would go to all these shops in San Diego and drink their cold brew, I would ask people, \u201cHow do you make your cold brew?\u201d \u201cWhat beans do you use?\u201d That really showed me what people are doing and how they\u2019re making cold brew. From that I learned that for the most part, everybody makes cold brew the same way and there\u2019s two main ways you can make it. There\u2019s either what we call an emersion style or a drip style. Emersion is when you take the coffee grounds and put them in the water and they\u2019re completely mixed together and you let them steep. How you do that? There\u2019s different ways and Toddy would be the most popular, it\u2019s also one of the cold brew makers that Starbucks uses. There\u2019s also a company called Alto and they make bags that you can use, where you put the coffee in there and then you put it in water. That\u2019s emersion style and that\u2019s what most people do. Where it varies for shops is how long they do it for. Sometimes it\u2019s eight and sometimes it\u2019s forty-eight hours.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">Every shop has their own idea of what is best for them. Also, the size of their coffee grounds makes a difference. Typically, with cold brew, you want a very course grind because the bigger the grind, the slower the extraction and since you\u2019re extracting for a long amount of time, if you have these super, super fine particles, it\u2019s going to extract very quickly and if you\u2019re doing this for forty-eight hours, you\u2019re going to have a very over-extracted coffee that may not taste the best. So, usually they\u2019ll go with a courser, sometimes a little bit less course depending again on the shop. Then also getting back to that hot bloom, sometimes shops like to do that because they want to pull out more acidic notes, which by acidic, I don\u2019t necessarily mean the acid but it\u2019s more like the bright, floral and sometimes lemony notes in coffee. Hot bloom will pull some off those and again, sometimes the caffeine comes out a little bit more. So, sometimes shops will do that.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>Just to recap, did you say that some shops take the ground up beans and put them in water without a bag? That\u2019s one of the ways?<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">Yeah, depending on how they\u2019re making it, let\u2019s say for example they\u2019re using the Toddy, which if you\u2019ve ever seen a Toddy, it\u2019s like a big bucket with a filter at the bottom. So, you would have your coffee grounds in there and you would pour some hot water over it where it would be just enough that all the grounds are saturated. You then let it bloom for however much time and afterwards you would add your cold water and start the process.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>Okay, and then some people put the grounds in a bag, almost like a teabag?<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">Yeah.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>Okay, great. So, that\u2019s the emersion method? You\u2019re baptizing the coffee?<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">Actually, that\u2019s true. You really are, yeah. You could play some music. You can say a little prayer over it. It\u2019s truly a moment.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>Because of my spiritual background, I\u2019m thinking, \u201cOh, my gosh.\u201d You\u2019re baptizing the coffee like a Baptist. Where the drip is like the mainline churches that are just dripping a little water on your forehead.<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">Except we don\u2019t baptize people for eight hours, that would be rough. Emersion style is less common and that is just because the technology you use to do this can be a little bit more expensive. The drip style is where you have water that drips through the coffee grounds and then comes out at the bottom as the cold brew. The most popular and well know instrument used to do this is called the Kyoto drip tower and it actually came from Japan. Japan invented this creation and it\u2019s this beautiful wood and glass tower. It\u2019s a bit pricey, which is why not everyone does it but it\u2019s really cool to look at. Essentially what happens is you have your water at the top and then you have this little cylinder where the water drips through. Literally drop, by drop, by drop. And then you have your cannister with your coffee grounds. The water drops through the coffee grounds and then at the bottom you\u2019ll have a drop that\u2019s now saturated. From there it goes through the cylinder into the collecting jar where the cold brew will be. That one takes less time depending on how fast you have your drops going. Sometimes people do one drop per second, sometimes it\u2019s less, sometimes it\u2019s more. That will determine how long it takes for the cold brew to be created. But on the average, it\u2019s about around four to eight hours to make that happen.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>One of the things that I read is that you found in your journey of coffee shops, that some coffee shops sell iced coffee as cold brew. Is that right?<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">Yes. Speaking of cardinal sins, this is what I believe is truly one of them.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>Of course. How did you discover this? Just by asking? Or you tasted the difference?<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">Honestly, it was a combination of both. Anytime I go to a shop, ever since I started this, I always ask what beans they use and how they make it because I\u2019m always trying to learn, right? I remember I\u2019d go to a shop and I\u2019d ask them about their process and they wouldn\u2019t say it was an iced coffee, they would just explain their process or they would say, \u201cOh, it took us eight minutes to make it.\u201d As I prodded a little bit more, I realized, \u201cWait a minute, this isn\u2019t iced coffee then. It\u2019s not a cold brew.\u201d It\u2019s an awkward situation because this is a coffee shop that\u2019s clearly advertising it as a cold brew but upon my discovery, it\u2019s an iced coffee. So, it\u2019s hard for me because I don\u2019t want to call them out and then be like, \u201cOh, well you know you should call that an iced coffee,\u201d because I don\u2019t want to be rude. But deep inside I\u2019m crying because it\u2019s like, \u201cOh, my goodness. You\u2019re falsely advertising on behalf of cold brew.\u201d There was also sometimes when I would taste it and it clearly did not taste like a cold brew. It tastes like an iced coffee. If you\u2019ve ever tasted the difference between the two; cold brew is very smooth and iced coffee has a bite to it. That\u2019s the best way I can describe it.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">What\u2019s also going on right now in the specialty coffee world is that some baristas and some coffee professionals do not like cold brew because it pulls more of the rich chocolate notes out of the coffee. Which I love and I know a lot of people do as well, but a lot of people like the more brighter and more acidic notes, which is also fine. That\u2019s just a choice. So, what they\u2019re doing instead of doing cold brew, they\u2019re using a different method that\u2019s better at pulling those notes out. They do what\u2019s called a \u201cflash brew\u201d or better known as a Japanese flash brew and it looks like a pour over. If you\u2019ve ever gotten a pour over or if you\u2019ve ever seen what it looks like, you have your grounds at the top and then you have your collecting jar right at the bottom and there\u2019s a filter in between. Then you see the barista pours the water in centripetal circles and the coffee drips into your collecting jar for you to drink. With a Japanese flash brew, you take away about half that water you would use to brew it and you replace it with ice cubes in that jar. And when you treat it like a pour over, you\u2019re going to still pour the hot water but what happens is, as the coffee is brewed and it drips through the filter, it hits the ice cubes and it automatically chills the coffee. They taste good and I like them because they are a little bit different and they\u2019re smoother than an ice coffee but the problem is again, people are doing this and calling it cold brew. My thing is, I\u2019m fine with flash brews but call it a flash brew, don\u2019t call it a cold brew.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>Of course. These people, they\u2019re killing the cold brew. Okay, so what about going to a grocery store? I know there are all types of brands but is there anything I need to be aware of when I\u2019m trying to think about which one to choose from? Obviously, I can\u2019t taste it before I buy it, so who knows if I\u2019m going to like it or not? Help me understand that process.<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">There\u2019s three things I would say to look for if you\u2019re going to go buy a cold brew. It\u2019s three questions you have to ask yourself and then look for when you\u2019re shopping. The first one is, do you want a concentrate or do you want a ready to drink? The difference is a ready to drink is just that, it\u2019s ready to drink. You can pop open the bottle cap and you can start drinking that cold brew. A concentrate however is a very concentrated form of cold brew that has to be diluted. I love concentrates because it gives you a bit more freedom. If you\u2019re someone that likes a stronger coffee, you might buy a ready to drink and be a little bummed because it\u2019s a little watered down for your taste. So, if you get a concentrate, you can add as much water as you want to your flavor preference. That\u2019s definitely something you want to look for, because if you want a ready to drink and you accidently buy a concentrate, that could be a little rough. So, that\u2019s the first thing you want to figure out. Do you want a ready to drink or a concentrate?<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">The next question to ask yourself is do you want a still cold brew or do you want a nitro cold brew? Nitro cold brew has really taken off in the past couple of years and now even Starbucks has made it an initiative to have nitro cold brew at every single one of their stores. I partied in my room when I heard that. I thought it was so cool. But if you\u2019re not familiar with nitro cold brew, they take nitrogen gas and pressurize it into the cold brew. It\u2019s then either poured from a tap or in this case you would pour it from the can. As a result, the way that the nitrogen is incorporated, it creates this foamy, creamy texture in the cold brew and it cascades without adding any calories, any sugar and any fat.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">It\u2019s just something that\u2019s fun and different. I\u2019m a huge fan of nitro and I love that technology has gotten to the point where if you go now to the grocery store and you buy it in a can, it\u2019s great. It\u2019s as if you\u2019re getting it from a tap. You can see the cascade. You can see the foam head. It\u2019s really cool. But not everybody likes that. Some people just want a still, black cold brew and I would say if you are someone that\u2019s trying to buy a can and you\u2019re going to drink it from the can, I wouldn\u2019t go for a nitro. Because with a nitro, you want to pour it into a cup to activate the nitrogen process. If you\u2019re going to go buy a cold brew and you\u2019re going to be drinking from the bottle, go with a still. But if you have a cup and you want to experience that foaminess, go with the nitro.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">The last thing that you want to look for is, do you want a black cold brew or do you want one that\u2019s going to be sweetened or flavored or with milk? Now we have these two kinds of categories. We have the black cold brew and then we have the cold brews that either have sugar, or a little bit of cream or they might even have the draft latte styles. It\u2019s really broadened and some people like me prefer black cold brew. I just usually go for that but if you\u2019re someone who likes cream and sugar in your cold brew and maybe you want that, you want to look for that on the label. You might even want to look on the back for the nutrition facts and look at the ingredients to make sure that you know what\u2019s in there. Sometimes labels can be a little deceiving and you\u2019re not quite sure, \u201cWhat is lightly sweetened? Is that a lot of sugar or a little sugar?\u201d And what milk did they use? Is it a cow\u2019s milk or is it a plant based milk? So, just take that extra time and look on the nutrition label to make sure all the ingredients are okay based on your current dietary habits. Those are the big three, whether you want a concentrate or ready to drink, still or nitro and then black or flavored.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>What about canned versus bottled? Is there any difference or flavor difference in between those two no matter what you\u2019re drinking?<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">I don\u2019t think so. I would say, especially with nitro\u2019s, I wouldn\u2019t at this point buy a nitro in a bottle because the way that technology is. The nitro that comes in cans usually has a widget or something in there to help kick start the nitro process when you pour it out. So, I would say if you\u2019re going for a nitro, go for a nitro can, don\u2019t go for the bottle. You probably won\u2019t get a very good cascade. But as far as bottled versus cans, it\u2019s kind of your preference. I know glass is more environmentally friendly, so if that\u2019s more your mindset, then go with the glass. It\u2019s really up to you.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>What about cold brewing at home? Do you do this at home yourself?<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">Oh, yeah. Everyday.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>Every day, okay. So, tell me about the process and what are the options if I want to do this at home?<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">There\u2019s a couple of things you can do. You can either buy a cold brew kit, which more and more companies are coming out with. That\u2019s just going to be their coffee in a bag and then you put the bags in a either a pitcher or a glass container with some water and then just brew it at home. If you want to get creative and you want to get more specialized in your cold brew, you can buy coffee beans and then you can buy a cold brew kit on your own. There are so many out there now. In fact, I have a YouTube channel and there was a series I did all about reviewing cold brew makers because there are so many out there. And for me, taking a picture of a maker doesn\u2019t do it justice. You have to see it being used, right? So, from that I\u2019ve discovered there\u2019s three main categories when it comes to cold brew makers.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">You\u2019ve also got the bags and there\u2019s different bags that are out there. You have your emersion style, which we talked about where the coffee sits in the water. But you have these makers now where they have a filter that\u2019s usually stainless steel. It goes into a pitcher and it has a pre-set ratio for you of how much water and coffee to use. Then you have these hybrid machines where you use a bag and emersion. So, an example of that would be the Toddy kit. That one is where you can use a paper bag to put your coffee in but you still have another filter at the bottom. Which one to pick if you want to pick one, is up to you. Do you want your cold brew process to be very simplified and you want something really easy? I would say go with the emersion style because that ratio is already determined for you and you literally put the coffee in that filter, you add your water and you\u2019re done. It\u2019s all in one piece. If you\u2019re looking to be a little bit more creative and maybe you want to make bigger batches or you want to have that freedom of playing around with smaller batches for yourself or maybe making a big one for a party, I\u2019d say go with the bags.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">My personal favorite bag is Alto cold brew. I love it because it\u2019s very easy to use. They have ratios for you depending on what size you get. And then the material, I\u2019ve never, ever dealt with any sediment or any sludge in my cold brew, which can happen if you\u2019re making it. They\u2019re just fantastic because they have a great price point, they\u2019re very cheap. They\u2019re my absolute favorite to make cold brew. But granted, you\u2019ve got to be a little bit creative because you have different sizes. You\u2019ve got to know which size you want and then putting it in there to make the brew. I would say those are like the top three kits that are out there right now.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>I\u2019d really encourage people to watch your YouTube videos. I\u2019ve watched a number of them and they\u2019re super fun to watch and you\u2019re showing the process, so it makes it very helpful. We\u2019ll of course link to your YouTube channel in the show notes but people can just search \u201cCold Brew Chick\u201d because there isn\u2019t two of them, there\u2019s only one on YouTube.<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>Okay, I know this is like asking who your favorite child is, but what are your favorite shops to purchase cold brew?<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">It\u2019s funny that you say that because that\u2019s usually what I tell people when they ask me. I say, \u201cIt\u2019s like picking my favorite child.\u201d It\u2019s like you knew. That\u2019s rough. I made a post about this recently, where it\u2019s like, I have favorites and I have cold brews that have always stuck out to me for whatever the reason. The one that always stands out to me in my journey as Cold Brew Chick and every time I drink it, is from a shop here in San Diego. It\u2019s in Rancho Bernardo, called Mostra Coffee and they have a cold brew that\u2019s called One Brazilian Coconut. It was my first emersion cold brew and with the emersion process, when you\u2019re doing the cold brew process, you add other ingredients as well. What they did is they added coconut. So, while the cold brew was steeping, the coconut was steeping with it. I had no idea that this could even happen in cold brew until I went and I visited their shop and they let me taste it. The first time I tried it, my mind was literally blown because it was so rich and decadent in that coconut flavor. I love coconut in coffee. It\u2019s one of my favorite combinations and they just nailed it. It was so good and it had no extra calories or sugar or anything. It was just phenomenal and to this day it is one of my all-time favorite cold brews. Anytime I\u2019m in the area, I go and grab one. In fact, I\u2019m going to grab one today because I\u2019m going to go up north and I\u2019ll be going past them.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>What\u2019s the name of the shop again? Say it for me.<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">It\u2019s Mostra Coffee. M-O-S-T-R-A.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>Very cool, okay. We\u2019ll make sure to link to that. And it\u2019s called the one coconut?<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">One Brazilian Coconut.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>Brazilian Coconut, okay.<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">Yeah, they call it that because the coffee used for it is a single origin Brazil.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>Alright, I know it\u2019s picking your favorite children. You just did it. You picked your favorite child.<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">Well it\u2019s one of my favorites. One of them<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>How about a bottled or canned cold brew from a grocery store? Is there a particular grocery store that you find has a better selection? And is there a particular cold brew that you like more than others?<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">Honestly, at least in San Diego, the shop that always has the best selection is Whole Foods. They have their own literal cold brew section. They have a fridge and it\u2019s huge, with just cold brew. It\u2019s crazy. However, I know that\u2019s not in everyone\u2019s price point and even sometimes I\u2019m like, \u201cUgh, six dollars for a cold brew? I can\u2019t do that.\u201d So, Ralphs, which I believe would be Kroger in the mid or East Coast; they have some great options. It\u2019s a little bit more in the price point and they have some bigger, well-known names. As far as my favorite, that one\u2019s even harder.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">As far as nitro goes, I like Stumptown, which is like one of the OG\u2019s when it comes to cold brew. They have a nitro cold brew called Hairbender that they came out with last year and it literally is a hair bender. It is so strong. Not only in caffeine, but in taste. I love it because it\u2019s such a good wake-me-up. When I\u2019ve had a long night or I have to get up early and I need that kick in the pants, that is the cold brew that I go to. As far as still cold brew, I\u2019m going to cheat a little bit. It is a can of cold brew and it is in shops, but this is more of a San Diego exclusive. It\u2019s Modern Times, they are a brewery here San Diego that has grown now to become a coffee roaster and seller. They are expanding, so if you live in Oregon or Northern California, you can purchase them. But they can cold brew and they are always canning new cold brews.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">I feel like every month they\u2019re releasing a new cold brew and they do really unique things with their cold brew as well. They\u2019ll do what\u2019s called \u201cbourbon barrel aged\u201d and that\u2019s where you take coffee beans and you put them in a bourbon barrel and let them sit for an extended amount of time. The beans absorb some of the aromatics of the bourbon or sometimes it\u2019s whiskey or whatever was in that barrel and that flavor will then transfer when you brew the coffee. So, the bourbon barrel cold brews have been fun and they\u2019re always releasing ones but with different single origin coffees. They\u2019re always highlighting blends and single origin and I love their cans. They always do a great job or making cold brew and I love picking up their latest can and seeing what they\u2019ve done with cold brew.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>Alright, awkward question moment. I\u2019ve always got to ask one awkward question, Rachel. <\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">No problem.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>I\u2019m married, so this is not for me, okay? Do you happen to have a special someone in your life?<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">I do not, no.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>Would you be open to dating someone who did not enjoy cold brew?<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">Well, my follow-up question would be, \u201cWhy?\u201d Why don\u2019t like they like cold brew? Is it because they like hot coffee? Is it because they\u2019re one of those people that like flash brews? Do they not like coffee at all? That would be my follow up question because if they don\u2019t like coffee at all, that could be rough. If it\u2019s because they like hot coffee and they don\u2019t like cold coffee, I could do that because we could still go to coffee shops and stuff. They just would order something else. If it\u2019s because they like flash brew, then that\u2019s a little bit more acceptable because maybe I can get them to like cold brew.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>What if they only iced coffees that are sold as cold brews?<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">Why? Why would you? Why? I hope that\u2019s not true. I hope someone\u2019s not like that. But I mean, you know what? I should take that back because I\u2019ve always told myself, not to judge. I\u2019m also in the process of becoming a dietician and one of my core beliefs or values as a nutrition expert, is that I never judge people\u2019s food choices. Everyone picks what they eat and picks what they drink for different reasons that we may never know. So, you know if someone enjoys iced coffees disguised as cold brews, I\u2019m not going to judge them. You enjoy it.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>You\u2019re secretly judging. I know it. I can see it in your heart.<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">But I\u2019m not saying it, so you\u2019ll never know.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>Okay, so you mentioned you are in the process of becoming a registered dietician. That is quite an amazing process and journey. I was stalking your LinkedIn and saw that you\u2019ve done all of these internships at all of these amazing hospitals in San Diego. My first question is, are you close to being done?<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">That is still to be determined. I finish my internship here within a couple of days, but then the next step is you have to take the exam to actually get your credential. That is where I don\u2019t know when I\u2019m taking it yet. It\u2019s a very tough. It\u2019s this very hard exam and it\u2019s based on a lot of things you wouldn\u2019t think dieticians would need to know about. I don\u2019t know when I\u2019m going to take it yet. It depends on how much I study and when I feel ready. I may never feel ready, you know? So, I\u2019m planning to take it by the end of the month because I\u2019m very anxious to start working. But yes, the end is in sight.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>Is there a section on coffee?<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">You know, there might be because I remember having this question about coffee in one of my exams in school and it asked, \u201cDoes dark roast or light roast coffee have more caffeine?\u201d I was happy because I got it right. So, there could be. Who knows?<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>Speaking of caffeine, as someone who\u2019s becoming a registered dietician, what do we need to know about caffeine? Is it a concern? Should we be aware of it? Or should we consume as much as possible?<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">I never promote that. I actually had a series I did last year, called <i>Please Drink Responsibly.<\/i> I had this same question myself and being around people in the coffee industry, I would see people downing coffee all day and I couldn\u2019t help but think that it was so unhealthy. I kept thinking, \u201cHow are they doing that and being healthy? Are they healthy?\u201d I didn\u2019t know, so I took thirty days off of caffeine myself. I wanted to take a caffeine break and I wanted to learn more about the effects of caffeine. I explored decaf coffee as well, because I feel like that\u2019s something that gets very poo-pooed on, like, \u201cUgh, it\u2019s decaf.\u201d But I just wanted to explore what was out there and I learned a lot. The biggest thing with caffeine is that it is far more individualized then I think we think it is. I spoke to a couple naturopathic doctors about this and their thing is for caffeine, it really depends on whether you\u2019re a fast or a slow metabolizer. What that means is when we take caffeine, does your body utilize it really quickly or does it hang around a bit? The hard way to know if you are or not is to take a DNA test and find out. The easy way to know is to just look at your own caffeine intake and see what it does to you.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">If you\u2019re someone that can drink caffeine at nine o\u2019clock at night and then go to sleep, you\u2019re probably a fast metabolizer. If you\u2019re someone like me, I\u2019ve got to cut myself off by 3 p.m. otherwise I\u2019m not sleeping well. That would mean you\u2019re more of a slow metabolizer. Then you have those people that are very slow, where they have one cup and they\u2019re jittery and it just doesn\u2019t work for them. That\u2019s how you can kind of gauge whether you\u2019re a fast or a slow metabolizer. As far as the health benefits of caffeine, there\u2019s been more in favor of caffeine than against caffeine when it comes to research studies. So, I would say if you are someone that enjoys the effects of caffeine and you don\u2019t have any underlying issues that you feel would be disturbed it, I say go for it. There was study that came out recently that was saying, \u201cYou can drink twenty four cups of coffee and be fine.\u201d I mean, even if that\u2019s true, I probably wouldn\u2019t do that just because if you\u2019re drinking twenty four cups of coffee, then you\u2019re not drinking water. You\u2019re not drinking other liquids, right?<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>Plus, you\u2019re just sitting in the bathroom all day.<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">Yeah, who wants to do that? My personal rule that I\u2019ve set for myself is I have one cup of cold brew a day and I have it before 3 p.m. That\u2019s just more for me to be safe and make sure I don\u2019t overdose because I have experienced caffeine overdose before and it\u2019s not pleasant. It\u2019s also to make sure that I sleep at night, because I\u2019m really big about sleep. I hate to say it depends on you, but it really does. It takes a little bit of experimentation for you and your caffeine tolerance to see where you stand.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>It\u2019s fascinating because I have friends like you that say, \u201cOkay, yeah I can\u2019t have caffeine after this time,\u201d and I remember in college, I\u2019d have a Mountain Dew right before bed. I\u2019d literally drink it and then go to sleep and for whatever reason, it doesn\u2019t seem to impact me as much. <\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>I know you just got back from Coffee Fest in Indianapolis, is that right? And there\u2019s another one in Los Angeles in August?<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">Yes.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>So, this will come out before that and I know the event isn\u2019t necessarily open to the public, it\u2019s for people who are in the coffee industry, is that correct?<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">Yes, it is.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>What is it all about? Tell us about it.<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">Coffee Fest is a tradeshow for people that are in the coffee industry. They\u2019re either a barista, a shop owner, a roaster or people that are thinking about becoming a barista, a shop owner or a roaster or people like me that do media about coffee or something coffee related. It\u2019s just a gathering of people to learn and have some fun. There are classes every day. There are booths with different roasters and coffee shops and whatnot and then there\u2019s competitions. Why I started going and the main reason I go is they have an America\u2019s Best Cold Brew competition. They highlight thirty-two cold brews who compete against each other to take the title of America\u2019s Best. They have a still category and then they have a nitro category. So, that\u2019s where I actually had my first caffeine overdose. It was the first time I went to the competition. Day one, trying these thirty-two cold brews, I was not smart about it and it was very rough.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>Were you a judge or just someone who was tasting?<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">I was just a spectator. The way that they do it is they have three judges that will anonymously blind test the cold brews and then you can walk down, they have a row with the competitors. You can walk down and taste them and there\u2019s the ballot where you vote. So, yeah, the first time I was like, \u201cYeah! I\u2019m voting,\u201d and that\u2019s when I drank too much.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>What happened to you?<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">I felt light-headed. I almost felt like I was walking on the air and I don\u2019t like that. I like to feel grounded. It felt like my heart was racing a little bit too fast and I felt hungry. I felt like I was starving and needed to eat, but my stomach felt full. It was a very uncomfortable feeling. I knew I needed to eat because I hadn\u2019t eaten all day and I knew I needed to be drinking water but again, my stomach felt full because that\u2019s one of the effects of caffeine. It\u2019s an appetite suppressant. My stomach was saying, \u201cNo, nothing,\u201d and I\u2019m like, \u201cYes, I need to eat.\u201d So, the combination of all those three was just very unpleasant and it didn\u2019t go away for maybe two hours.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>Oh, man. You learned your lesson.<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">I have learned since then, yes. I haven\u2019t experienced that since that happened. But every day, it whittles down a little bit and by the end of the third day of the expo, you\u2019re down to four stills and then four nitro\u2019s who are competing for first, second and third. So, that\u2019s always a lot of fun because it\u2019s coffees from all over the nation and even here at the Indy one, it was actually a lot of people from the Mid-West. So, a lot of people from Indy, Chicago and Wisconsin, and I\u2019d never tried cold brews from those areas before, so it was really cool to see what their cold brew philosophy is and what they did with their cold brew. The one in L.A. coming up will be a lot of people from San Diego, L.A., Washington, Portland and surrounding states. It\u2019s always just a fun collaboration of coffee people and cold brews.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>That\u2019s great. We\u2019ll make sure we link to Coffee Fest in L.A. as well, just so people can find out about that. If people want to connect with you, it\u2019s <\/b><span class=\"s2\"><b>www.coldbrewchick.com<\/b><\/span><b> and you\u2019re on Instagram and you\u2019re on YouTube with some great videos and of course, last but not least, your podcast.<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">Yeah!<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>Tell me about your podcast. If somebody hasn\u2019t listened, sell it to them right now.<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><i>The Cold Brew Chick Podcast<\/i> was designed to highlight either fantastic cold brews or cold brews that are incredibly unique. I started this podcast because when I would go to the coffee shops to do my review and to check them out, I would sometimes be sitting there for an hour or an hour and a half, talking to the owner about their coffee and their journey and cold brew philosophies. I finally had this idea, \u201cWhy don\u2019t I record these conversations and then share them? Because there has to be at least one other person out there that would find this as interesting as I do.\u201d<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">So, that\u2019s how that started and now, this Thursday is going to be fifty-two or fifty-three episodes, which to me it\u2019s kind of crazy that I could come up with fifty-three episodes all on cold brew. But it\u2019s still growing and it\u2019s just really cool to see what people are doing with cold brew. Like I said there\u2019s the emersion style that Mostra does but there\u2019s so much more and right now I think we\u2019re at the point with cold brew that we are beyond just the basic black and even nitro. We are expanding into other realms and other ways that cold brew could be used. For example, cold brew gummy bears are now a thing.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>I saw that, and other food items even, correct?<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">Cold brew marshmallows are going to be coming out in a couple months. There are things you would have never thought would even exist that are happening. It\u2019s crazy. I\u2019m just grateful to be able to share these stories and these journeys and be along for the ride.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>Alright, I have a coffee confession for you to end our time together. Are you ready?<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">I don\u2019t know, am I?<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>You\u2019re sitting down, so it should be okay. Number one, I\u2019ve never tried a cold brew, ever. Gasp. Go ahead, gasp.<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">Okay. Nope, no gasping.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>What do you think the percentage is of people who are coffee drinkers who have never tried a cold brew? What do you think the percentage is?<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">Wait, do you have it? Do you know what it is?<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>I don\u2019t. I don\u2019t actually, but I should. I\u2019ll research it.<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">I would guess maybe 50%.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>Because it\u2019s a newer thing and a lot of people are obviously used to drinking coffee hot?<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">Yeah, that\u2019s the thing, some people do not like cold coffee like my parents. I\u2019ve tried so hard to get my parents to drink cold brew.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>And they won\u2019t go for it?<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">No, they just love hot coffee and the idea of drinking cold coffee, to them, is weird. So, it\u2019s not even a cold brew thing. It\u2019s just a cold coffee thing.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>Yeah, it\u2019s kind of a negative thing, \u201cMy coffee\u2019s cold. I don\u2019t want it to be cold.\u201d Okay, so probably 50%, that\u2019s pretty high. I will tell you, in my research for our conversation, I\u2019m just super fascinated and I love learning from you. All of these different aspects, it\u2019s so cool. Okay, so that\u2019s confession number one. Confession number two, I have only tried coffee one time when I was twelve. <\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">Okay, and I guess it didn\u2019t end well?<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>I don\u2019t know. I was just like, \u201cI don\u2019t think I\u2019m into it.\u201d I\u2019ve never had coffee since then. Isn\u2019t that crazy? The percentage of people like me has got to be super low. I will tell you though, I\u2019m not into hot drinks. I was telling my family this last night at dinner, \u201cI\u2019m interviewing Rachel and I feel so bad. I\u2019m learning all these things and I\u2019ve never even had coffee.\u201d But because I like cold drinks, I might try a cold brew. I might try it. My son\u2019s sixteen, he loves them. I\u2019ve never had them. I think I should try one. At least one.<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">Ooh, I will help you find the best one for you. We\u2019ll talk.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>Are there carbonated cold brews? The nitro sounds a little bit like that.<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">Yeah, actually\u2026<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>You don\u2019t like carbonated cold brews? I can tell.<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">Here\u2019s the thing with carbonation and coffee. I didn\u2019t know this until I tried a carbonated cold brew but carbonation is CO2 gas and when you add CO2 to coffee, it does not end well. It does not have a good effect on coffee.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>The flavor profile changes?<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">Yeah. So, once upon a time there were cold brew sodas on the market and I tried them very early on and I hated them. To me they were disgusting. I did not like them at all and they\u2019re gone now. They\u2019re off the shelves. So, there hasn\u2019t been any cold brew soda for a while but very slowly I\u2019ve seen and more shops offer different creations. So, one that I\u2019ve seen is cold brew and cherry Coke and then they add a little sarsaparilla. It\u2019s like when you put it that way, that sounds pretty good. I would try that.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>That\u2019s like adding a bunch of creamer to your coffee. People are like, \u201cWhat are you doing? What are you doing to the coffee? You\u2019re killing it.\u201d<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">Yeah, it\u2019s a little out there but I\u2019m down to experiment and try it and I think that\u2019s where they\u2019re going to go. It\u2019s more in the craft or almost mocktail creation arena. We might see a day where canned cold brew sodas come back but it\u2019s just very tricky because again, that CO2 is not the best partner for cold brew.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>I will sooth your soul in the fact that I don\u2019t drink beer or wine either. It\u2019s not a moral reason or something, I just never got into it. So, it\u2019s not like I\u2019m anti-coffee, I\u2019m just pretty focused on Diet Dr. Pepper. I should make a dietdrpepperguy.com podcast. I don\u2019t think they would let me.<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">Well, I mean, you never know. There are places in Asia and they always do really funky and fun sodas. I know they\u2019re coming out with a coffee Coke. So, maybe they\u2019re going to come out with a coffee Diet Dr. Pepper.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>Well, I will tell you that the other day I interviewed a gal named Lindsey Elmore, she calls herself \u201cThe Pharmacist\u201d and she is a pharmacist but she\u2019s been completely consumed and focused just as much as you are about cold brew, with essential oils. It\u2019s an obsession with essential oils and she actually did get me to buy some oils. So, you have that going for you. You\u2019ve talked me into it. I\u2019m going to try a cold brew.<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">Now I feel like the pressure is on me. I\u2019ve got to find you the right one to make you like it. Oh, shoot.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>I actually am going to San Diego for three days in the month of July. So, if you tell me, maybe I could try the single Brazilian coconut.<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">One Brazilian Coconut? Oh, I like this challenge. I\u2019m going to do it. I\u2019m going to find the best cold brew for you that\u2019s going to make you fall in love. It\u2019s going to happen.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>Alright, I\u2019ll drink it and then I\u2019ll tell people at the end of this episode, what I thought of it.<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">Yes! Yes, I\u2019m excited.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>Rachel, I am inspired. One of the reasons I\u2019m inspired by you is because this is a great example of how people can find their passion in anything. You\u2019re going to be a dietician but this is part of your life and part of your passion. One of the things I love to do is help people find their passion and help them learn that it can be anything. You found your passion in cold brew. That sounds ridiculous to me, but when I talk to you, I\u2019m thinking, \u201cYes! You are awesome. This is part of your purpose in life. This is part of your meaning.\u201d You\u2019re leading the charge in not only providing education but really more than education, you\u2019re providing community. You\u2019re helping people get connected to one another. You\u2019re benefiting from the community of cold brew. Other people are benefiting from the community of cold brew and I think that\u2019s really inspiring. So, as people that are listening that are thinking, \u201cWell, what am I interested in?\u201d \u201cOh, I\u2019m interested in this particular type of flower,\u201d or \u201cThis particular type of beer,\u201d or \u201cThis particular thing in life,\u201d if you\u2019re interested in it, there are tons of other people that are interested in it and that\u2019s a great way to create community and connection and life change and you\u2019re doing that. So, I admire that. Great job.<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">Oh, thank you, David. Aww.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>Okay, so we\u2019ll promote you everywhere; <\/b><span class=\"s2\"><b>www.coldbrewchick.com<\/b><\/span><b>. Everybody\u2019s got to go there and if you can\u2019t remember that, like my producer, Kristin. I\u2019m going to call her out right now, she kept calling you Cold Brew Gal and I\u2019m Googling you and I\u2019m thinking, \u201cI don\u2019t see a Cold Brew Gal. I see a Cold Brew Chick.\u201d She goes, \u201cOh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It\u2019s Cold Brew Chick.\u201d<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">That\u2019s funny because that was one of the names I was thinking about. When I was creating the name, I was very against Cold Brew Chick because I was convinced that people were going to hear \u201cchick\u201d and think of baby chickens. I was like, \u201cI don\u2019t want to be associated with baby chickens.\u201d And so, I was like, \u201cI can\u2019t be Cold Brew Chick,\u201d but then nothing else fit and Cold Brew Queen was taken, \u201cI guess it\u2019s Cold Brew Chick.\u201d<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>I\u2019m envisioning the cold brew process and you throw in coconuts; you just throw in baby chicks to spice up the brew.<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">That is one cold brew I would not drink.<\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\"><b> \u201cI\u2019ve got a feather in my mouth.\u201d Alright, Rachel, thanks so much for being with us.<\/b><\/p>\r\n<p class=\"p1\">Thanks for having me.<\/p>\r\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\r\n\r\n<!-- wp:separator {\"className\":\"is-style-wide\"} --><\/p>\r\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator is-style-wide\" \/>\r\n<p><!-- \/wp:separator -->\r\n\r\n<!-- wp:paragraph --> <strong>Subscribe to Inspiration Rising<\/strong> on <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/inspiration-rising\/id1448649388\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Apple Podcasts<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/play.google.com\/music\/m\/Iqrp5q3bagph2t23malprd3dxvy?t=Launch_Yourself_Today\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Google Podcasts,<\/a>\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/42zIsXzjCibZt49xdCRvB4\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Spotify<\/a>, or <a href=\"https:\/\/www.stitcher.com\/podcast\/in-plain-sight\/launch-yourself-today\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Stitcher.<\/a><!-- \/wp:paragraph --><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Rachel Dillon is the founder of Cold Brew Chick, an online resource and podcast about all things cold brew. 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